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« on: December 08, 2005, 09:44:28 pm »
I see in Flight mag that CHC have won a contract in the UK to provide the coastguard with 4 S92 and 2 AB139 from 2007 till 2012.They will replace S61's.Whats the chances of them replacing their S61's here with similar equipment. 'stir_the_pot'

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 12:18:39 am »
Hi there
In today's Indo, there is an ad from CHC for Dauphin pilots/winchmen/engineers.It must have been written for Donners.Stand back and watch the rush!
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 02:06:23 pm »
Dauphins Hmmm, I wonder could these be possible from the existing IAC stock which the future is unsure about.... Possible a sale of these could be possible!?!
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 02:43:03 pm »
The advert was looking for Dauphin crews, not aircraft.

BTW, the last of the Dauphin's and Gazelle are being withdrawn from service on December 31st 2005.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 03:03:03 pm »
Does anyone know what is happening the Dauphins and Gazelle when they are retired?
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2005, 08:22:30 pm »
Quote (GoneToTheCanner @ 08 Dec. 2005,15:18)
Hi there
In today's Indo, there is an ad from CHC for Dauphin pilots/winchmen/engineers.It must have been written for Donners.Stand back and watch the rush!
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Perhaps such people are required to fly/service CHC helis used to ferry personnel to oil platforms ?

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2005, 09:54:36 pm »
CHC are recruiting for SAR crews at the moment as well as flight crew for Cork operations.As for 92's and AB 139's, anything is possible (wink,wink,nudge,nudge).The S-61's are not going to last forever.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2005, 11:40:03 pm »
On the build list for the AB139, two aircraft have "EI..." registrations, indicating that the unnamed customer will be operating the aircraft in Ireland.(In addition to CHC)
http://www.dgualdo.it/prod-ab139.htm
CHC operate Dauphin 365N out of Cork servicing the Kinsale field.
The SAR S61 used in ireland were all originally built in the late 70s,early 80 and while airworthy, would be due for replacement at some stage, and the S92 is the obvious choice.





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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2005, 12:06:10 pm »
Hi everyone,

its been a while since i posted... been away

The general thought is that the 61s will be replaced at some stage, but also the fact that the S92 is not tested i dont think that people are keen to be part of the "bugs" cleaning system that will happen once the S92s come into service.... The current s61s are suitible.

Oh and the build list for the AB139, i know that one of those purchases is going to a private owner!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2005, 06:35:56 pm »
Hi all
Where better to source Dauphin qualified people than from the only Irish source? No difficult relocations,no currency changes.How bad.I doubt if CHC would touch the AC airframes with a barge-pole, except as a source of spares.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2005, 12:09:23 pm »
Quote (Spook @ 08 Dec. 2005,21:44)
I see in Flight mag that CHC have won a contract in the UK to provide the coastguard with 4 S92 and 2 AB139 from 2007 till 2012.They will replace S61's.Whats the chances of them replacing their S61's here with similar equipment. 'stir_the_pot'

It's been officially confirmed today that CHC have won the uk SAR contract in question comencing mid 2007.

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2005, 02:28:59 pm »
UK search and rescue PFI moves forward.
From Janes Defense Weekly

Plans for replacement of the UK's search-and-rescue helicopter capability are now at an advanced stage. Private ownership of helicopters is at the centre of plans to replace the search-and-rescue fleet
 
UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) procurement officials have approved the business case for a GBP1 billion-plus (USD1.76 billion-plus) project to replace the existing search-and-rescue (SAR) helicopter fleet with a single private finance initiative (PFI).

The plan to replace UK Royal Air Force (RAF), Royal Navy and coastguard SAR helicopters is expected to be considered by ministers in early 2006. The proposal could see a private sector contractor provide between 30 and 40 helicopters to conduct SAR coverage from up to a dozen sites along the UK coastline, MoD sources told JDW.

Under the 25-year 'power by the hour' contract, the UK government would pay for use of the helicopters but they would remain in civilian ownership and on the civil aircraft register. These new helicopters would not be configured to take part in combat operations outside the UK.

A joint MoD and Maritime & Coastguard Agency (MCA) SAR Helicopters integrated project team (IPT) based in the Defence Procurement Agency (DPA) is overseeing the cross-department project.

The SAR Helicopters IPT looked at a range of options, including joint and stand-alone MoD/MCA programmes, Public-Private Partnership (PPP)/PFI, conventional procurement and maintaining the current capability before deciding to recommend a PFI, according to officials close to the project.

JDW understands that while internal MoD approval of the business case is in place, the MCA has yet to secure approval for the project from the procurement department of its parent ministry, the Department for Transport (DfT), although ministry insiders consider this a formality.

The DfT contract approval process is very different from that of the MoD, but it is expected to catch up during 2006, to allow time for a competition to be launched and the winning service provider to have the first new aircraft in service by 2012.

The DfT and the UK Treasury have been pushing for the provision of all peacetime SAR operations in the UK to be handed over to civilian operators to save money, but the RAF and Royal Navy successfully resisted the plans.

The remaining non-military aircrew would be civilian contractors. Both the RAF and Royal Navy want to rotate their personnel between jobs in the UK-based SAR force and helicopter units with a SAR or personnel recovery role for expeditionary operations overseas. It is unclear yet if the military will operate specific SAR sites in the UK or trickle-post personnel to work as part of joint civil-military units.

"Having the ability to post people to the UK SAR force allows new personnel to gain vital core SAR skills and gives experienced people in high-pressure expeditionary warfare units a chance to [remain active but step down from combat] after being on operations," said an RAF officer involved in the project.

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2005, 02:35:52 pm »
The RAF have seen this coming for a long while now. I spoke to a 22sqn crewman this time last year and he was in the process of "Going on his ticket" and coming here to CHC of all places. I know that there is is at least one civilian pilot(ex 22sqn) flying RAF Seakings in Wales already!!!?? Dont know the circumstances behind this though!

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2005, 02:38:24 pm »
Quote (Old Redeye @ 14 Dec. 2005,14:28)
UK search and rescue PFI moves forward.
From Janes Defense Weekly

Plans for replacement of the UK's search-and-rescue helicopter capability are now at an advanced stage. Private ownership of helicopters is at the centre of plans to replace the search-and-rescue fleet
 
UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) procurement officials have approved the business case for a GBP1 billion-plus (USD1.76 billion-plus) project to replace the existing search-and-rescue (SAR) helicopter fleet with a single private finance initiative (PFI).

The plan to replace UK Royal Air Force (RAF), Royal Navy and coastguard SAR helicopters is expected to be considered by ministers in early 2006. The proposal could see a private sector contractor provide between 30 and 40 helicopters to conduct SAR coverage from up to a dozen sites along the UK coastline, MoD sources told JDW.

Under the 25-year 'power by the hour' contract, the UK government would pay for use of the helicopters but they would remain in civilian ownership and on the civil aircraft register. These new helicopters would not be configured to take part in combat operations outside the UK.

A joint MoD and Maritime & Coastguard Agency (MCA) SAR Helicopters integrated project team (IPT) based in the Defence Procurement Agency (DPA) is overseeing the cross-department project.

The SAR Helicopters IPT looked at a range of options, including joint and stand-alone MoD/MCA programmes, Public-Private Partnership (PPP)/PFI, conventional procurement and maintaining the current capability before deciding to recommend a PFI, according to officials close to the project.

JDW understands that while internal MoD approval of the business case is in place, the MCA has yet to secure approval for the project from the procurement department of its parent ministry, the Department for Transport (DfT), although ministry insiders consider this a formality.

The DfT contract approval process is very different from that of the MoD, but it is expected to catch up during 2006, to allow time for a competition to be launched and the winning service provider to have the first new aircraft in service by 2012.

The DfT and the UK Treasury have been pushing for the provision of all peacetime SAR operations in the UK to be handed over to civilian operators to save money, but the RAF and Royal Navy successfully resisted the plans.

The remaining non-military aircrew would be civilian contractors. Both the RAF and Royal Navy want to rotate their personnel between jobs in the UK-based SAR force and helicopter units with a SAR or personnel recovery role for expeditionary operations overseas. It is unclear yet if the military will operate specific SAR sites in the UK or trickle-post personnel to work as part of joint civil-military units.

"Having the ability to post people to the UK SAR force allows new personnel to gain vital core SAR skills and gives experienced people in high-pressure expeditionary warfare units a chance to [remain active but step down from combat] after being on operations," said an RAF officer involved in the project.

Very interesting indeed.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2005, 02:23:24 pm »
The Guys in 22Sqdn have indeed known this for a while, and yes alot of themn are making there way to companies like CHC... better money/benifits all round....
In fact that 22sqdn crewman may indded be here already as there are quite a few working for CHC.

Also i hear the Bristow Crews working where CHC took the contracts are also happy cause there pay is increased and its a better standard of working with CHC than with bristow..

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