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Air Shows / Exercises / Other Events => Irish Air Shows => Topic started by: Joe McDermott on July 16, 2008, 04:07:31 pm
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Portrush web site advertises air display both days 13.00 to 17.30. The Vulcan & Red Arrows are both said to be attending, anyone got more info ? Will the Vulcan be there both days ?
Joe
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According to the official Vulcan website it is scheduled to be at Southport on both those days:
http://www.tvoc.co.uk/events_diary.asp
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Thanks Frank. Have you dried out yet ?
Joe
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Dried out and looking to book more trips....
Got a fair soaking in Lechfeld, one of my camera's stopped working, when that happened I knew it was time I made for the bus!
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& from the bus to the bar :thumbsup:
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Very unlikely the Vulcan will display at Portrush-despite the fact Southport is not that far away.The Vulcan would be a real handful to display around Portrush-the display area is very tight.
Not much info on whats displaying at Portrush at present but with some searching I found:
Red Arrows (both days)
BBMF Spitfire and Dakota (Sunday Only)
RNHF SeaFury and SeaHawk (both have cancelled in the past!)
RAF Falcons (if they have something to jump from!)
RAF Grob Tutor
RAF Puma
Ulster Gliding Club and the usual civilain acts are expected.
Not much to shout about as yet but as the Southport Show is on the same weekend and fairly nearby( Liverpool area) some stuff might come over.
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Thanks for the info Paul. Big pity :down:
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Now some more updates for you on Portrush.........
BBMF Spitfire (Saturday only)
BBMF Dakota,DC-3,C-47 (or what ever you like to call it :-\) (Both Days)
RAF Tucano
RNHF SeaHawk (no SeaFury :'()
Fair chance Team Guinot will attend and the usual Husky,Skybolt,Piper Arrow etc.
Will keep searching out info and post it here if I find out anything.
Portrush is a tough venue to display and several pilots I`ve spoken to don`t like it.Almost certain of a stiff on-shore gale and the display area is very tight esp for fast jets.
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Strikemaster G-FLYY to display both days.
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No Typhoon this year either
It’s a tricky display area for pilots, there seems to be two display areas
For the “Low n Slow” they fly into the beach area and back out too sea & for the “Fast N Furious jets its out past the cliffs
If you want to get up-close and personal go to the harbor wall as you arrive on the right
Last year the Red Arrows got so close you could actually smell the colored diesel additive as they whizzed by …..
excellent !
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Hi All
Well here it is!
The Portrush 2008 line up and it’s a cracking line up at that the VULCAN is to make an appearance despite the fact that she’s at Southport
Southport must be nearby for the Vulcan to display both shows
the lineup is as follows :
RAF Red Arrows Display Team (Saturday 12noon, Sunday 5pm)
Sponsored by Kennedy Group
AVRO Vulcan Bomber
First appearance in Ireland since its £7m restoration
The Blades Display Team
RAF Tucano
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Douglas C-47 Dakota
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Spitfire (Saturday only)
Sea Hawk
RAF Falcons Parachute Display Team (Saturday only)
RAF Westland Sea King
First appearance at Portrush
Royal Navy Black Cats Helicopter Display Team
First appearance at Portrush
Royal Navy Merlin
First appearance in Portrush
Royal Navy Lynx
Team Guinot Wing Walkers
Twin Pioneer
First appearance at Portrush
BAC 187 Strikemaster
Piper Arrow
Bird Dog L19
Starduster Too Bi plane
Skybolt
Ulster Gliding Club - formation display and solo ballet
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There has been a lot of rumours suggesting the Vulcan may or may not be displaying at Portrush this year.
The info Joey has listed is from the Show website but I have found it to be rather unreliable in the past.
At the risk of being a Victor Melrew until the Vulcan is confirmed as displaying on the Vulcan to the Skies website I would not get too excited.
It was originally; as Frank mentioned earlier,that the Vulcan was to display at Southport (which I believe is fairly close to Liverpool) both days so it maight only be a flypast from the mighty beast.
Still very much worth seeing but lets not count ye olde chickens just yet.
The Vulcan is a very complex and expensive aircraft to operate and it would be extremely expensive for Coleraine Council to bring it over-if it is confirmed then woopieee dooo!! but I would advise caution and don`t forget the dreaded weather might not play ball.
Also regarding the Sea King-it has been due to appear every year at Portrush and has NEVER done so sadly because of operational requirements.The nearest RAF Seakings are on Scotland and Wales so there is a far chance of another cancellation.
Without wanting to sound negative the Portrush show is generally ok but most of the aircraft have been on the bill every year-normally a mass evacuation after the Red Arrows display.
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Hi Paul
I agree ! :thumbsup:
I’m not holding my breath either
I was there last year and there where a few “No-Shows” but it would be bad PR to put up misleading info on an official website
I know many Airshows have "subject to conformation" put underneath some acts but when I visited the website it didn’t have any so I assumed it was confirmed :-[ ???
Below is the link to the Portrush Airshow Site
http://www.colerainebc.gov.uk/airshow.php?id=872
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It would be great if the Vulcan can make it,it has strong ties with Northern Ireland as there was a OCU unit based at RAF Aldergrove during the early 60`s but I believe only for a short time-I also believe RAF Ballykelly had a few Vulcan visits.
Portrush show seems to have more than it`s fair share of no-shows partly due to the fact it normally clashes with the September Duxford and/or other larger UK shows.The weather also has a knack of being brilliant on the Friday then Gale Force 10 with blinding rain on show days-but we aircraft fans are a hardy bunch.
It has also had a few calamities-I recall the 1st show the Hunter had a generator problem and aborted his display but rather than divert to City of Derry of Aldergrove the pilot (a Eurofighter test pilot!) elected to try to return to the aircrafts base in Exeter!!!
Needless to say he didn`t make it and the aircraft crashed in North Wales-the pilot ejected but was badly injured as he landed in shallow water.The aircraft was completely destroyed-I wonder just how miffed the aircrafts owners were???
Also that year the Red Arrows only managed one pass due the very low cloud base and decided to abort the display entirely much to the frustration of the crowd as the PA system was less than useless and many people didnt realise what had happened.I was beside a family that had travelled up from Killarney just to see the Red Arrows and they were not best pleased
Also two years ago on of the Red Arrows almost paid an unsheduled visit to a B+B`s roofspace after the final break!!! :jaw-dropping:
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Hi All
More Additions to the portrush display
Dave McCoy / Yak-50
Jimmy Griffin / Yak-52
Husky Float Plane
Wild Geese Parachute Display Team
de Havilland Devon
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The Vulcan is NOT appearing at Portrush this year.........same old story.........lack of sponsor.
I think it is VERY wrong to advertise the aircraft was coming when it had not been confirmed,but I`m afraid that Coleraine Council have done that in the past.
The Vulcan display date was on the VTTS website briefly but it is now gone and has also been removed from the Portrush site.
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I believe the reason the Vulcan appeared on the Portrush site was that a fee had been aggreed by both partys for the Vulcan to appear... :thumbsup: .and also appear at the Southport airshow at the same time...but due to the rise in fuel and mantaince costs the Vulcan team decided to up their fee..... :oh: so the Southport show decided to pull out because it was too high for them.... :thumbsdown: and then the Vulcan team raised their fee to appear at Portrush even further and then it was decided to drop it from the show there too.... :duh: so it seems that the Vulcan team has priced themselfs out of most small and medium sized shows this year and some of the shows that have booked them are having second thoughts about doing it again.... :stirthepot:
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That`s pretty much what I had heard-I still feel it is wrong to list an aircraft as appearing until all the arrangements have been made and contracts signed.
It is highly likely that many people would have travelled considerable distances just to see the Vulcan as it is a very special aircraft.
Regarding VTTS that operate her it would seem they always have their hand out-in my own opinion the public money that was spent on her could have been put to better use on restoring other rare types to flying condition.
One that springs to mind is the Mosquito or another Lancaster (Just Jane for example) or indeed the mighty Buccaneer.
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The Vulcan is now displaying at Duxford Sept 6th and 7th >:( Seems it goes where the big money is and the smaller shows can go and whistle-bad buisness ethics methinks Grrrrrr!!!!
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In fairness to the Vulcan operators it cost a lot of money to get the aircraft back in the air and it costs a lot of money to keep it there, why should they send it to a show that can't pay for some or all of it's costs and therefore operate at a loss?
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Frank -you are quite correct that it cost a great deal of money to return the Vulcan to an airworthy state.The thing is a great deal of the money came from the National Lottery with the previzo (no spell check sorry) that the aircraft be displayed right across the UK.Yet again the big shows get the big acts and the smaller shows are left out
Much of the money also came from donations from aviation societies and also the general public( I donated over £100 pounds from auctions on Ebay)
The thing that makes me angry is a fee had been agreed with both the Southport and Portrush show organisers and then VTTS(Vulcan To The Sky) wanted more.I understand City of Derry airport had waived all landing and handling fees and BP had agreed to fuel the aircraft at a very heavily discounted rate.
Portrush is a free show so the organisers don`t have much chance to re-coup what they pay for displays-it brings people into the area but with no ticket sales they have to have a limited budget.
A great deal of hard work and effort went in to try and bring the Vulcan to Portrush,I think the way VTTS have handled the situation has been very poor.
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Well said Paul. If the appearance and fee are agreed the show should go on. It appears from what you say that Gazzumping is alive and well in the air show organising area. A lot of the money that went to putting the Vulcan into the air came from the "ordinary joe" who, like myself, would like to see the machine perform where it is advertised.
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Quite a shame the Vulcan will not make an appearance, it would look amazing watching it coming in over the tops of those cliffs!What AC participation this year?im annoyed because il not be able to make it to this airshow because im heading to santa ponsa on the 6th, though il try to get some shots of the Spainish Hornets that fly from there :airforce_grin:
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I am sure that "noisy, fuel guzzling thing" could have been brought over if the merchants/businessmen had contributed and who in turn benefit enormously from the crowds who attend. Is this not what happened to the Galway Air Show, lack of support from the business community? :stirthepot:
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Quite a shame the Vulcan will not make an appearance, it would look amazing watching it coming in over the tops of those cliffs!What AC participation this year?im annoyed because il not be able to make it to this airshow because im heading to santa ponsa on the 6th, though il try to get some shots of the Spainish Hornets that fly from there :airforce_grin:
There are no EF-18s based at Santa Ponsa (Mallorca) or at Palma Airport. There are some SAR Pumas and CASA 212s which you may see flying along the coast. Other military types may visit but they are fairly few and far between.
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I heard the hornets are regualar visitors to the island!? :airforce_huh:
il pack the olympus just in case!
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Hi All
This is what’s in store for anyone going to the Portrush Airshow.
Whether half of the acts appear is debatable,
some only appearing for one of the days (Saturday seem to be the best of the two days if you had to Choose)
RAF Red Arrows Display Team (Saturday 12noon, Sunday 5pm)
The Blades Display Team
RAF Tucano
BBMF Douglas C-47 Dakota
BBMF Spitfire (Saturday only)
RAF Nimrod MR2 flypast – (Saturday only]
Sea Hawk
Hawker Hunter (Blue Diamonds)
RAF Falcons Parachute Display Team with RAF Chinook jump platform. (Saturday only
Royal Navy Sea King Search & Rescue
Royal Navy Black Cats Helicopter Display Team
Royal Navy Merlin
Royal Navy Lynx
Team Guinot Wing Walkers
de Havilland Devon
Antanov AN2 (to drop 4 million poppies on Sunday)
BAC 187 Strikemaster
Piper Arrow
Bird Dog L19
Starduster Too Bi plane
Skybolt
Ulster Gliding Club - formation display and solo ballet
Wild Geese Parachute Display Team
Vans RV-7.
Yak 52
Yak 50
Husky Float Plane
I see no IAC Participation! Has any member any reason for the non attendance/representation
of any Air Corps Aircraft?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the tightening Government finances are responsible. Most arms of Government and State services have been directed to find savings in the current year and I imagine that Air Corps attendance at airshows would have to be reviewed if they have also got such an instruction.
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Maybe if the casa was to be on a sortie on the day it could "slightly" deviate from it's route for a quick flyby while nobody was looking !!! :rotfl:
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I see the Vulcan is back on the southport airshow list because they goy a new sponser for it.... pity portrush didnt get one too.. :banghead:.. but im still looking forward to the show.... :thumbsup: hope the weather isnt going to ruin what will be the only airshow in Ireland this year...... :down:
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:airforce_huh:''the only airshow in Ireland this year'' .....er, Bray?
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il be there after all, my holiday to santa ponsa has been cancelled!woman problems, but at least i still have the airshow!il be on the cliff to get close ups of the bigger planes that will be coming in!
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Weather Forecast for the weekend at Portrush is terrible!!!
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ni/ballycastle_forecast_weather.html
I can see the whole thing being cancelled or at the very least a load of no-shows.
I don`t want to sound like a doom and gloom merchant but I would hate people to travel a long distance to stand in the wind/rain and see nothing.I live near Aldergrove so it`s not too far for me to travel to Portrush but some of you lot have a long journey ahead.
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I checked the above Met link today,
It seems the north and northern part of Ireland (Portrush Included) will get the best of the weather
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ni/ballycastle_forecast_weather.html
Enjoy the weekend folks!! :thumbsup:
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So did anyone go to this?!I was there. Going to get pics up asap.The weather was brilliant for it.It was my first outing with my new camera so the pictures were not as good as i hoped they would turn out!Still got a few good ones though!
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Went both days and VERY lucky with the weather!.
We hired a cottage and drove up on Friday and the rain started at 3pm and belted down until the small hours-I thought the show would be cancelled but the sun came out and th 20mph winds helped dry the ground.
Lot`s of no shows unfortuantly
Here`s want didn`t come:
Black Cats RN Lynx display team
BBMF Spitfire
BBMF Dakota
l-19Birddog
Heron
Hunter
RNHF Seahawk
RNHF Seafury
RAF Falcons
RAF Chinook
Generally all the displays were very good,but again too many no-shows for my liking.
The Red Arrows displays both days were the full shows but not as accurate flying as I have seen from them in the past-I know it`s only little mistakes but on looking at the pics I took (I took loads) every formation at least one aircraft was out of position,sometimes by a big margin.
Rumours abound that there won`t be a show next year