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Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Broc on March 06, 2006, 08:13:15 pm
here's a nugget i got from a heli pilot who i considder a very reliable source-
apparently Augusta have given the Air Corps the honor of naming the 139.  Any suggestions?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 06, 2006, 09:52:58 pm
"Osprey" or Peregrine. or even Kestrel. I know they are all birds of Prey, but isn't that what the AB139 is supposed to be.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Irish251 on March 06, 2006, 11:31:15 pm
It is going to be hard to come up with a good and original name - Osprey is the V-22 Tilt-Rotor and Kestrel was used for the Hawker P.1127, which was a forerunner of the original Harrier.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 07, 2006, 12:45:26 am
Barn Owl: for the amount of time it'll spend in the Hangar... pilot_laugh
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 07, 2006, 08:42:20 am
Well if Kestrel hasn't been used for 30 plus years, it could be a goer.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: pilatus on March 07, 2006, 10:14:47 am
Hows about the swift as it is said to be one of the fastest helicopters in the world?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Old Redeye on March 07, 2006, 04:14:34 pm
AW-139 Swift.  Sounds good, but conjures up the RAF Swift fighter of teh 1950's, a failure that was withdrawn after limited service.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: pilatus on March 08, 2006, 10:20:36 am
so swift it is then?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 08, 2006, 06:18:48 pm
Swift is a bird that only lands to nest or die...It even mates on the wing

Hardly appropriate for a Heli?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: RMR on March 09, 2006, 12:55:48 am
ab-139 ocelot..
ab-139 asp. :laugh:
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: pilatus on March 09, 2006, 11:50:13 am
Quote (sealion @ 08 Mar. 2006,09:18)
Swift is a bird that only lands to nest or die...It even mates on the wing

Hardly appropriate for a Heli?

exactly only lands to die or nest i.e. the day it stops flying is the day it is retired!but we dont have to look into the meaning of each name so much!i thought swift because it is fast!
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 09, 2006, 07:29:19 pm
Quote (pilatus @ 09 Mar. 2006,11:50)
Quote (sealion @ 08 Mar. 2006,09:18)
Swift is a bird that only lands to nest or die...It even mates on the wing

Hardly appropriate for a Heli?

exactly only lands to die or nest i.e. the day it stops flying is the day it is retired!but we dont have to look into the meaning of each name so much!i thought swift because it is fast!

the swift is not a fast flier, but a fast diver...
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: FiSe on March 09, 2006, 07:46:46 pm
Swift sounds little bid softly to me, for a military heli...
What about some name from Celtic mythology?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Broc on March 10, 2006, 06:59:05 pm
hot off the press guys: 'Wolfhound' is looking like the front runner thumbsup
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: SousaTeuszii on March 12, 2006, 06:41:37 pm
How's about AB139 Plastic Wonder!
A Blackhawk it is not. Lovely machine but Pongo boots could be a bit hard on the plastic interior. pilot_laugh
ST
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Guinness on March 12, 2006, 09:20:08 pm
What about "Banshee II " or Casement ??

Just some Clog thoughts [:glare:

Guinness
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Hess on March 13, 2006, 04:56:00 pm
Being a betting man I,d say that name will be sourced from within the Irish language (fare enough), but then  will go and balls it up by naming it something like "colur".Irish for pigeon! pilot_rolleyes
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 15, 2006, 12:46:18 am
Wolfhound sounds good
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 15, 2006, 01:52:51 pm
I can hear it now, "hey dad I just saw a wolfhound flying over the house", ehhh
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 15, 2006, 04:51:34 pm
Quote (clan @ 15 Mar. 2006,13:52)
I can hear it now, "hey dad I just saw a wolfhound flying over the house", ehhh

Well there are pigs flying around Baldonnell daily. I saw them flying over limerick the other day too...
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: FiSe on March 15, 2006, 08:26:29 pm
Wolfhound  thumbsup
Irish yet international
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 15, 2006, 08:38:05 pm
Quote (sealion @ 15 Mar. 2006,07:51)
Quote (clan @ 15 Mar. 2006,13:52)
I can hear it now, "hey dad I just saw a wolfhound flying over the house", ehhh

Well there are pigs flying around Baldonnell daily. I saw them flying over limerick the other day too...

True sealion, but it does sound a bit odd, flying Wolfhound. Robin, albatross, gannet something that maybe associated with flight might be better then a breed of a dog that is known to be big and lazy and not very fiercesome despite its name.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: FiSe on March 15, 2006, 11:03:17 pm
2 clan: and what bird's name hasn't been used, Albatros is Czech made L-39, Alca is newer L-159... And different Tucanos, Arrows, Daggers, wasps and other insects are plenty out-there as well
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 16, 2006, 02:20:14 am
Warthogs don't fly either...
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Guinness on March 16, 2006, 07:55:14 am
They do Sealion.!!!

The pilots nickname of the A-10 is Warthog

What about Pookah

( sorry for possible misspelling it but I don't know the right one)
For I know it's a sort of ghost in Irish

Guinness :cool:
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: pilatus on March 16, 2006, 10:24:13 am
Quote (FiSe @ 15 Mar. 2006,14:03)
2 clan: and what bird's name hasn't been used, Albatros is Czech made L-39, Alca is newer L-159... And different Tucanos, Arrows, Daggers, wasps and other insects are plenty out-there as well

Alca is not the name of the jet  Alca stands for Advanced light combat aircraft!but still it sounds good!
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Flyboy on March 16, 2006, 12:44:24 pm
It will be called "The Army Helicopter", as the Press usually refer to it !!
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 16, 2006, 02:42:34 pm
Fise, Crow, sand piper, Curlew, Avocet, goldcrest, goldfinch, greenfinch, blue tit s far as I know have not been used and off the top of my head I could easily come up with another 50 or so. And I think you mean Dipper not Dagger.
Banshee is a good one as Guninness suggested.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Fouga on March 16, 2006, 02:55:53 pm
How about we just call it the M.R.T.A.H

Medium Range Tactical Assault Helicopter.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: FiSe on March 16, 2006, 03:04:26 pm
2 clan: I meant Dagger - Delta, Banshee sounds good, but again it was name for 50's U.S. Navy jet...
But what I meant above is: bird names are too common, everybody who wants to name a plane says falcon, eagle, condor etc. I think more originality is needed.
For example: Apache doesn't fly, so how come one of the most known army - or attack - helicopters bears this name, the same about Tiger or Gazelle or Dolphin/e/, there are at least two crafts with this name and what about I.D.F. names? Lions do not fly either...
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on March 16, 2006, 03:06:31 pm
Quote (Guinness @ 16 Mar. 2006,07:55)
They do Sealion.!!!

The pilots nickname of the A-10 is Warthog

What about Pookah

( sorry for possible misspelling it but I don't know the right one)
For I know it's a sort of ghost in Irish

Guinness :cool:

You missed my point Guinness. The animal that is a warthog does not fly, yet a very agile aircraft is named after it.

Following from that, it would not be unusual to name an aircraft after an animal that does not fly.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Fouga on March 16, 2006, 03:56:12 pm
Cow! mooooooo  :D
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: clan on March 16, 2006, 06:53:50 pm
Red Fox!
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: on March 16, 2006, 07:43:00 pm
"...and here comes the new Irish Air Corps 'Blue Tit' 139 on it's first ARW demo insertion. Just look at how well disguised the ARW members are, obviously wetting themselves with embarrassment at being caught in such a gay sounding helicopter."

However, it would have to be an english name because AB will want to use it in the future for international marketing purposes. Bring on the Wolfhound. Better callsign than feckin 'Rainbow'.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: P.Doff on March 18, 2006, 10:47:30 am
Locally they'll just be known as the "139's"  by the lads as they already are. So you wont hear anything other than that from Aircorps personnel cos its stuck now. Same as "Fougas" for the Magisters, "Marchetti's" for the Warriors etc.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Guinness on March 19, 2006, 02:28:41 pm
Let's be honest....... it doesn't sound bad at all, 139's !

Better that "blue tit  :D " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guinness :cool:
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Old Redeye on March 20, 2006, 02:56:41 pm
You're right, "139" has already stuck with the IAC, no matter if they are eventually rebranded 149's or given a name, but I like "Wolfhound".  Very military and evocative, and it would be good for the IAC and for Ireland to be referenced by every additional military operator of the 139/149, and there will be many over the years because this is an exceptional aircraft with lots of potential.  

Be quick though.  If the US-139 wins the imminent US Arrmy Light Utility Helicopter competition, as it well might, it will get an American Indian tribe name, the tradition for all US Army aircraft.  Hardly Irish.  Decision expected next month on at least 350 aircraft, with many more likely if the USAF signs on as well to replace their UH-1N's as expected.  Competition is Bell 412 (not likely), EC-145 (Likely) and MD-900 Explorer (not a chance).  I'm betting on the 139 Wolfhound.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: xpih on April 07, 2006, 11:36:43 pm
Oh I'll throw my tupence worth in....
'Wolfhound' isn't bad mind

Other fauna-based suggestions which I don't think have been applied to aircraft to date. Take your pick ... or not:
Tiercel (term used for a male peregrine)
Buzzard (used before?)
Stoat
Torc (Irish for 'wild boar')
Nightjar
Chough
Lapwing
Snipe
Jay
Jackdaw
Magpie
Bonxie (Scottish (?) name for the seabird Great Skua, perhaps better than the Irish colloquialism for it: Shitehawk)
Beaver (Go on, I dare ya)
Shag (its getting worse, I think i'd better stop)
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: GoneToTheCanner on April 08, 2006, 11:10:20 am
Hi all
How about "HiAce"? The most ubiquitous mode of transport in Ireland, complete with breakfast-roll munching fat driver and job lot of grubby labourers in the back.We could even jam a wedge of old reciepts under the windshield for the proper effect, with the scrawl "also available in camouflage" written in the dirt above the ramp.
Any chance of a start,Boss.
regards
GttC  :laugh:
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Fouga on April 08, 2006, 01:20:58 pm
Sionnach-Fox
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Irish251 on April 08, 2006, 06:13:09 pm
xpih

Despite your apparent belief that "Beaver" has not been used before, De Havilland Canada got there fifty or so years ago when they used this name for their classic bush-plane, which has seen worldwide military and civilian use.  Furthermore many DHC-2 Beavers are still in use in Canada and the USA.

http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1012631/




Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: warthog on April 08, 2006, 08:15:25 pm
...budgethawk  pilot_grin
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: xpih on April 12, 2006, 10:57:55 pm
Quote (Short finals @ 08 April 2006,18:13)
Despite your apparent belief that "Beaver" has not been used before, De Havilland Canada got there fifty or so years ago...

Doh! duh How could I have forgotten that one.
Of course, I wasn't being entirely serious about those last two pilot_wink
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Guinness on April 13, 2006, 07:48:04 am
Fouga,

I like Sionanag.

Guinness :cool:
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: mark etty on April 13, 2006, 03:10:26 pm
Quote (Short finals @ 08 April 2006,09:13)
xpih

Despite your apparent belief that "Beaver" has not been used before, De Havilland Canada got there fifty or so years ago when they used this name for their classic bush-plane, which has seen worldwide military and civilian use.

HA HA! 'Beaver'...'bush'... sorry, so immature! but thats what people will think! :D
I like shitehawk personally...

ok some serious ideas,from a quick search on google:
there is a creature in celtic mythology called Airitech,that's fairly appropriate!
Or 'Scathach', pronounced Skee-ach.a god of war training apparently,taught Cu Chulainn how to kick @rse,so well suited to operations with the ARW.
What yez think?
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Irish251 on April 13, 2006, 09:50:53 pm
Mark Etty

Welcome, thanks for raising the tone on the board.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: Imshi-Yallah on April 13, 2006, 11:17:02 pm
Loeg - Cuchulain's charioteer.
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: GoneToTheCanner on April 14, 2006, 09:38:59 pm
Hi all
Whilst a lot of these names are well thought out and undoubtedly worthy, I suspect that the bods flying and fixing them will generate their own shorthand, in time-honoured fashion. Also, if these are Italian choppers, they'll probably be "named" by the guy who brought you those FIAT names, such as Style, Point, One and Type.What's the Italian for truck?
regards
GttC thumbsup
Title: Suggested names for the AB139
Post by: sealion on April 14, 2006, 11:32:56 pm
Quote (GoneToTheCanner @ 14 April 2006,21:38)
Hi all
Whilst a lot of these names are well thought out and undoubtedly worthy, I suspect that the bods flying and fixing them will generate their own shorthand, in time-honoured fashion. Also, if these are Italian choppers, they'll probably be "named" by the guy who brought you those FIAT names, such as Style, Point, One and Type.What's the Italian for truck?
regards
GttC thumbsup

cinqciento......


whats italian for 139?