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Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 18, 2007, 01:46:57 pm

Afternoon all,

Just received word that an Italian Air Force A319 landed Casement at 13:00 today. No EDT yet.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 18, 2007, 02:01:21 pm

ETD now believed to be 15:43 local.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Guinness on May 18, 2007, 03:53:46 pm

Pictures somebody

Guinness

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Frank on May 19, 2007, 01:27:40 am

Picture here:

http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1022328/

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: P.Doff on May 19, 2007, 12:45:07 pm

It was picking up VIP's. They arrived by Dassault Falcon on Weds.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Vertical T/O on May 19, 2007, 04:41:05 pm

As a matter of interest what is the biggest aircraft to fly into or out of Baldonnel?

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Tony Kearns on May 19, 2007, 05:09:55 pm

Quote (Vertical T/O @ 19 May 2007,07:41)

As a matter of interest what is the biggest aircraft to fly into or out of Baldonnel?

A Boeing 707 or a Globemaster (Congo Airlift). Perhaps some of you technical experts would decide.
Tony K

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Irish251 on May 19, 2007, 06:01:27 pm

The 707 would outstrip the C-124 and also the CL-44J (Aer Turas's EI-BRP landed in 1987) in terms of weight, though not in all dimensions.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: P.Doff on May 20, 2007, 07:02:51 pm

I remember the 707 landing alright! It was a crock!!! Did an Aer Lingus 747 do a touch and go at one of the air spectaculars during the 80's or was it just a slow pass with gear down , cant remember?? I remember its fast/low run though, Wow, amazing to see such a big a/c fast and low!!

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Irish251 on May 20, 2007, 09:25:21 pm

The 747 flew past a couple of times (I have photos somewhere) but did not touch, I'm fairly sure.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 20, 2007, 09:57:26 pm

Omega Air operated a B707-320 into Casement, in connection with a TV advert for Citron cars (standing by to be corrected, memory fading) , the BX I think. Lots of complaints were phoned in as the neigbours were not used to aircraft this size at the Don. The rest of the advert was shot in France, with the car nailed to the roof. (the IAA were having non of that !)

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Claudel Hopson on May 21, 2007, 10:38:18 am

The 747 did not touch down during thew airshow. Just a very slow low pass. Nice and noisy too.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: GoneToTheCanner on May 21, 2007, 03:38:22 pm

That 707 was an ex-Olympic Airways example and was operated by McEvaddy's Omega Air.when it cam into the Don, the Dublin ATC had cleared it to route for a visual approach to the Don.It is said that the pilot took this to mean that he was cleared for a run across the city at the standard VFR height of a thousand feet.I was out in Rathmines at the time and heard and saw the smoky old crock roar over.The phones lit up all over Dublin as loads of people called the emergency services claiming that they saw a jet crashing, trailing lots of smoke......they were in the Don to make a war film and even had phony ammunition boxes and uniforms.The ad with the Citroen was planned to be done with a Jumbo and was later filmed in France...when that 707 took off, it used an awful lot of the runway and generated the usual trail of smoke and a chorus of more angry phonecalls....One of the lads slipped on the steps and broke his ankle.He survived this to become an Aer Arran captain.
Fun and games.
regards
GttC

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Irish251 on May 21, 2007, 07:09:03 pm

I believe this was the 707 in question:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0047168/M/

It was not ex-Olympic but rather was originally delivered to Pan Am.  Interestingly it has been broken up quite recently, having been stored at Southend following an internal fire.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1192369/M/

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: GoneToTheCanner on May 21, 2007, 10:47:06 pm

HI SF
I am certain it was ex-Olympic because all the manuals on the flight deck were original Olympic Airways manuals and there were Greek decals all over the place. The aircraft even had an astrolabe in the top of the cockpit, just aft of the flight engineer's seat for star shots. It might have been Pan Am's at some stage but it most definitely was Greek, once upon a time.
regards
GttC

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 22, 2007, 12:58:41 am

Following info kindly provided by Malcolm Nason :

"Aircraft was 5N-TAS in basic Burlington colours, with false World Air Freight titles"

I can add :

5N-TAS was ex Pan Am (built 1967 as a -321C, named Clipper Pride of America) & had at least 4 other owners before Omega bought it. I have no record of it being with Olympic, but it may well have had a Greek crew, perhaps even ex Olympic.

Cockpit later damaged in arson attack (Essex youths) after aircraft Withdrawn From Use, 2003 at Southend, broken up earlier this year.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Snapper on May 22, 2007, 01:14:04 am

GTTC

This 707 was never operated by Olympic Airways.

I guess that its operator Thames Air or World Air Freight may have bought up a job lot of flight manuals from Olympic.

The following info is from B707 production list:-

Boeing 707-321C c/n 19375 l/n 662 ff 28.12.67  
N473PA  Pan American  delivered 09.01.68  
leased by Ronair/Iran Air 23.10.78    
N473RN  rr 12.12.78    
Trans Cargo lsd 18.02.80    
ATASCO Leasing  06.80    
HK-2473  Avianca lsd 06.80    
OBR1243 Faucett lsd 26.02.82    
N864BX  Radix Air Corp  08.85    
Burlington Air lsd 11.85    
Burlingon/Buffalo lsd 01.92    
5N-TAS  Thames Air  31.07.93    
9Q-CSW  World Air Freight 23.08.94    
EL-AKJ  Omega Air 24.11.94    
PP-BRR  Brasair lsd 26.11.94    
EL-AKJ  Omega Air 07.96  
Occidental AL lsd 09.96      
Skymaster AL lsd 06.98      
N2NF Omega Air Inc 03.03.00 - This was its final registration, but it was never worn and the aircraft has only recently been broken up at Southend.  

Snapper

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: GoneToTheCanner on May 22, 2007, 11:49:31 am

Hi all,
I'm sure you're correct, that it's not an ex-Olympic aircraft but given that flight manuals are issued to individual aircraft (because even production aircraft are always slightly different from each other),there must have been a Greek hand in there somewhere.
regards
GttC

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 22, 2007, 11:51:31 am

Another bit of info to add on the B707 filming, supplied by collegue not on this board, Barry Devlin of Horseslips fame was the director. And, like John Travolta, is a Lockheed Constellation fan !

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Irish251 on May 23, 2007, 10:44:49 pm

Pics of 5N-TAS at Baldonnel are now in the photo database on this site.

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Frank on May 23, 2007, 10:54:23 pm

Pic here: http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1022388/

and here: http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1022387/

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Dublin Spotter on May 24, 2007, 01:20:53 pm

And I taught this A319 flight was a proving flight for the new "Enda Jet"

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Fouga on May 24, 2007, 02:46:14 pm

Quote (Dublin Spotter @ 24 May 2007,04:20)

And I taught this A319 flight was a proving flight for the new "Enda Jet"

FG eh? I hope!

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Snapper on May 24, 2007, 06:44:47 pm

Can anyone confirm whether or not a CSA A321 visited Baldonnel late last night?

 

Title: Italian Air Force Airbus 319 at Casement
Post by: Joe McDermott on May 24, 2007, 08:40:30 pm

Seems not Snapper. Word was it was due to make a three day stop.